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Message from T. & Calico Gather Updates, February 02 – 09, 2010…

Posted by Texas Mustang Project on February 10, 2010


(The fonts in this post have been intentionally left in black with the exception of the ending prayer.)

Message from T…

I spoke earlier with Craig Downer via email. Craig stated that his count of casualties at the time of our correspondence was forty three (43) horses. Craig also stated “I am going out again on Thursday and again on Saturday, then the facility will be closed to public viewing according to BLM announcement.”

This past evening, I spoke with Dean Bolstad, Deputy Division Chief, Wild Horse and Burro Program. During our conversation, the topic of the public being onsite came up. Personally, I was surprised there were still observation days taking place, and that visitors from the general public were still being allowed into the facility.

The reasoning for this is that foaling season is now upon the Calico mares who’ve retained viable pregnancies. Two foals have already been born in this past week. With the ordeal that these horses have been through, on top of being heavily pregnant, all personnel attention should be focused on their care and needs… not on members of the general public who would like to visit. Mr. Bolstad stated that this was their concern as well, hence the discussions regarding the closing of the public visitations.

As a matter of liability and protection for all parties (and horses) involved, members of the general public cannot be allowed into the facilities or onto the grounds without an employee escort. Being the owner of a business that involves equines, I know this lesson all too well. Again we come back to the old adage of “the best of intentions…”; they don’t always have the best outcomes.

While I understand the desire from the public to “be near the horses” and/or be as involved as possible, there does come a time when their presence is more of a hindrance to these horses than any amount of help, no matter what the motives.

Case in point:  Just before this post, I viewed an online video the 2nd colt who consequently died / was euthanized as a result of hoof sloughing. Obviously, I was affected by the plight of this young colt. His pain should not have been allowed to continue in his condition without being given attention and care to his needs. On the other hand, I can’t describe the feelings I had while watching this video towards whoever the videographer had been. The mere presence of this “stranger” and “intruder” placed added and undue stress on his already horribly stressed psychological state of mind. It is late, and I don’t want to attempt a direct quote only to get it wrong because I am fatigued, however the general context of what I read along with the video was that the colt was in so much pain that he could not stand to move away from this intruder as did his paddock mates.

At this point, the question came to my mind of “Why did this person(s) continue to remain in this colt’s pressure zones?There was an obvious knowledge of the affect their presence was having on this colt as is evidenced by their comments, and yet they remained – continuing to add to this colt’s stress. Just because this colt was already having undue stress and was in undeserved pain does not nullify the actions of an individual or individuals who add to that stress and pain. “Two wrongs don’t make a right.”

I do not intend these comments in a condescending manner. More so I intend them in an inquisitive and somewhat awestruck manner; and also with the attitude of one who would expect anyone in close proximity to these horses to respect their boundaries. They are indeed wild horses, not the family pet (yet). Adding pressure to an already pressured animal does not produce a positive outcome; quite the opposite actually.

Given this colt’s particular situation, it is my opinion – for what it’s worth – that he should have been allowed to spend what time left to his short life without the prodding eyes and emotional pressures of another creature that was not of his own kind. Again, the motives behind these actions are not sufficient to justify the actions themselves; not by any means.

Again, in my opinion – for what it’s worth – as for the facility personnel not giving him proper care in his time of need – at least a sedative or pain relieving medical intervention – I am again inquisitive, but now wholly awestruck. Giving the colt some sort relief in his last hours would have been the more appropriate course of action versus allowing (or forcing) him to lie in wait of euthanasia. Even most who are not accustomed to dealing with the health and behaviors of the equine in general would see these are measures of compassion and humanity. This colt may have been “only 1 of 1900”, but he was one. His life meant no less and was no less significant than any of the others.

I suppose the best way to explain this would be that he should have been given as much peace as was possible. Unfortunately, he was not given this peace, but instead was given two separate instances – avoidable situations – that further took away any chance of peace he might have found in his own mind.

I will add him to my prayers along with the others as I ask St. Francis to bless them and St. Christopher to guide them in their journey ahead. May they all find the peace that was not granted to them on this Earth before death.

T.

Calico Gather Updates, February 02 – 09, 2010

Tuesday, Feb. 9 Indian Lakes Road Facility
Studs and weaned colts continue to do well and gain weight. Most mares from the Black Rock East and Black Rock West HMA are doing well.  Mares from the Warm Springs and Calico HMA are generally improving.  Most of the Granite HMA horses appear to be doing well, however, BLM is monitoring three or four Granite horses with poor body conditions. No miscarriages were noted today.  One Black Rock East mare and one Warm Springs mare died.  Both were euthanized because of poor condition/hyperlipemia/metabolic failure.

Facility deaths: 2, cumulative total: 39

Monday, Feb. 8 Indian Lakes Road Facility
BLM continues to monitor the condition of two weaker mares from the Warm Springs and Calico HMAs and three to four horses from the Granite HMA in poor body conditions.  One 15-year-old stud from the Black Rock West HMA was euthanized because of poor condition/hyperlipemia/metabolic failure.  No miscarriages were noted today.

Facility death: 1, cumulative total: 37

Sunday, Feb. 7 Indian Lakes Road Facility
Five mares that had been in hospital pens have improved and have been moved back to the general population pens.  Three colts that were in hospital pens for lameness, have improved and moved back in with the general population.  One of the mares from the Warm Springs HMA that the BLM has been monitoring, was euthanized because her condition continued to deteriorate.  One stud from the Black Rock West HMA was euthanized due to poor condition.  Both euthanizations were for poor condition/hyperlipemia/metabolic failure.  One miscarriage was noted today.

Facility death: 2, cumulative total: 36

Saturday, Feb. 6 Indian Lakes Road Facility
Overall, studs and weaned colts are doing well and gaining weight.  The Black Rock East and the Black Rock West mares are doing well. The Warm Springs and Calico mares are generally improving.  Monitoring three weaker mares from Warm Springs and Calico and three to four horses from the Granite with poor body conditions.  One six-year-old stud in poor condition died.  Two foals were born and are doing well.  No miscarriages were noted today.

Facility death: 1, cumulative total: 34 

Friday, Feb. 5 – Gather operations concluded today.

Indian Lakes Road Facility
The horses from the Granite HMA have all arrived and appear to be doing well. No miscarriages were noted today. One mare in the large pen with the general population was found with a spinal injury this morning and was euthanized.  The cause of the injury is unknown.

Facility death: 1, cumulative total: 33

Thursday, Feb. 4 Granite HMA gather site
The contractor is continuing to gather today.  Gathered 30 wild horses (6 studs, 21 mares, 3 weanlings/foals).  Shipped 53 wild horses to the Fallon facility (27 studs, 23 mares and 3 weanlings/foals).

One stud horse was euthanized on Wednesday because of a severe pre-existing injury. The right hind limb tibia had been fractured in the past and healed poorly with a nonunion. The leg was unstable and the hoof was worn abnormally.

Death at gather: 1, cumulative total: 7

To date, 1,922 excess wild horses have been gathered, 1,914 shipped to Fallon.

Indian Lakes Road Facility
Overall, all studs and weaned colts are doing well and gaining weight.  Many of the Black Rock East and Black Rock West mares are doing well. Warm Springs and Calico mares are generally improving.

There were four deaths at the facility. One Warm Springs mare and one Black Rock East mare (15 years old and 18 years old) were euthanized as an act of mercy because of poor condition on arrival at the facility and further declining body condition.  The diagnosis for the two mares failing health is hyperlipemia and metabolic failure.   One Warm Springs mare suffered a neck fracture and was euthanized after she collided with a corral panel while being moved from one pen to another.  A different Warm Springs mare that arrived at the facility in sound condition became lame.  An examination found a hind leg bone fracture and the mare was euthanized.  The cause of the fracture is unknown. 

Facility deaths: 4, cumulative total: 32

Wednesday, Feb. 3 Granite HMA gather site
Today is a public observation day. Six people have signed up to attend, including a reporter from Der Speigel and anti-gather advocates. The gather site will be moved south to Granite Creek Ranch on the east side of the Granite Range.  Correction: The contractor sorted 14 animals today (1 stud, 2 mares, 11 weanlings/foals) that were gathered yesterday.  Contractor also shipped 117 wild horses to the Fallon facility today (36 studs, 56 mares, 25 weanlings/foals).

To date, 1,892 excess wild horses have been gathered, 1,861 shipped to Fallon.

Indian Lakes Road Facility
One 25-year-old mare from the Black Rock West HMA in poor condition was euthanized.

Facility death: 1, cumulative total: 28

Tuesday, Feb. 2 Granite HMA gather site
The contractor gathered 127 excess wild horses today (57 studs, 56 mares, 14 weanlings/foals).  Also shipped 98 animals to the Fallon facility (30 studs, 43 mares, 25 weanlings/foals).

To date, 1,878 excess wild horses have been gathered, 1,744 shipped to Fallon.

Prayer of St. Francis of Assisi

Lord, make me an instrument of your peace.
Where there is hatred, let me sow love;
where there is injury, pardon;
where there is doubt, faith;
where there is despair, hope;
where there is darkness, light;
and where there is sadness, joy.

O Divine Master, grant that I may not so much seek
to be consoled as to console;
to be understood as to understand;
to be loved as to love.
For it is in giving that we receive;
it is in pardoning that we are pardoned;
and it is in dying that we are born to eternal life.

 Amen

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30 Responses to “Message from T. & Calico Gather Updates, February 02 – 09, 2010…”

  1. Lynette said

    T,
    For me it is “why did the BLM not put this colt down and stop his pain?” The BLM is using the video taker as an excuse to stop observers. That poor little colt did not need to continue to suffer. One can see the blood all over the ground, why did they not do anything? Why was he made to suffer until he died. Shame on the BLM and their heads in the sand to make their own point. They just don’t want there to be any evidence of the deaths of the wild horses. And to add insult to all this, they now announce their grazing fees and licenses for the year. How do they justify taking the wild horses off the range and making the taxpayer pay to support them and then let the cattle ranchers graze their cattle at the lowest prices they can at more expense to the taxpayer????? I just don’t get it!

  2. reveil39 said

    Putting the blame on the observer is as old as the Bible.

  3. reveil39 said

    Genesis 33:12-14
    But Jacob said to him, “My lord knows that the children are tender and that I must care for the ewes and cows that are nursing their young. If they are driven hard just one day, all the animals will die. 14 So let my lord go on ahead of his servant, while I move along slowly at the pace of the droves before me and that of the children, until I come to my lord in Seir.”

  4. Suzanne,
    “The BLM is using the video taker as an excuse to stop observers.” Can you send me a link about this? I hadn’t seen this til your comment (which isn’t saying much on my part – its been a crazy week/month/year LOL) I would like to address this in my questions & discussions with officials.
    Your other comments are also being currently addressed in the same manner. Once I have more information and have put it together in a better format than post-it notes & pages of scribbles, I will post it for you guys.

    All,
    I understand how frustrating these questions can be, & how easily this subject matter has been reported by others without prior information & verification from sources other than internet postings. This is not to say they are not correct, just that I’m trying very hard to give every opportunity of “benefit of the doubt” to all parties involved. This proves to be even more difficult than I imagined it would be the day before today, the day before yesterday, and so on. Still, in the interest of the best dissemination of factual information as possible, I keep at it.
    This colt’s endured pain is not acceptable, just as many others’ pains resultant of this gather are not acceptable. I think in life, we as mere mortals have to accept that some pain is going to be felt; we are after all only mortal beings. However, I also feel that being creatures of free will we have the choice to decide when prolonged endurance of pain is no longer acceptable. For this, in our flawed existences, we have come to the solution of “humane euthanasia”. This is an acceptable solution if it is used & performed properly. To end the suffering of a helpless creature by this means is acceptable – unacceptable is to withhold this solution.
    I will elaborate on this subject & more when I receive reply correspondence later today from officials. I hope that it will answer some of the lingering questions, but I know that it will also generate more questions & doubts. I encourage you all to *please* post these questions! I will do my best to obtain & distribute as much information as possible regarding these.
    T.

    • I was really just agreeing with Lynette’s overall take on how sad it was for the foal not only to die, but to suffer so. I’d not heard the accusation that the person taking the video was being blamed. It seems I did see that someone from the BLM had said, “Have a little humanity!” or something similar – I think this was a comment on YouTube. Want me to try and find it? I don’t mind at all. Whatever I can do…

      Just want to add, Craig Downer is truly one of the Good Guys. Someone I’d REALLY love to meet in person. No wonder he quit the BLM!

      • tracielynnthompson@yahoo.com said

        Oh that would be great! I spoke with Mr. Bolstad this afternoon & asked about this issue, but not having the info in front of me the question was more generalized. Basically, I asked if he was aware of any accusations similar in nature to this. He stated that no, he had not heard this. (There is more to this conversation, *lots more*… I am in the process of typing it all up & getting it all ready to post.) I look forward to seeing these comments / posts, & definitely HUGE thanks for the help! T.

        • reveil39 said

          Tracie,

          What did you mean by ““Why did this person(s) continue to remain in this colt’s pressure zones?”
          Are you implying that the videographer was there for a really long time?

          • Reviel39 asked:
            “What did you mean by ‘Why did this person(s) continue to remain in this colt’s pressure zones?’
            Are you implying that the videographer was there for a really long time?”

            No, it has more to do with the perception of time by the colt than with the actual amounts of time. I really have no idea what the minutes/hours were that the videographer remained because I was not there. No matter how long or short it was, to the colt, it was long enough. The reason I say this is because of the reactions of his paddock mates – they moved away from the people. In Equus, this behavior translates to “You are in my space and you are uninvited. You have the advantage, so I will move versus you moving.” The moment it was apparent to the visitors that the horses were 1) uncomfortable with their presence, and 2) that there was an ill or injured colt inside the paddock, they should have reduced their pressure by either leaving completely or removing themselves to a position of no pressure, which would have been out of the colt’s sight and emotional/physical boundaries. Given the angle of the video footage, it does not appear that either of these actions occured.
            I may be wrong, because like I said, I wasn’t there. I was only commenting on the video as an observer of that footage, and as an observer of the many times this same behavior has taken place at the expense of added undue stress to wild horses.
            As well, I do not count the facility personnel among the innocent. They are just as guilty as some of the others. What I will say is that they are willing to take constructive criticism intended to improve their methods. Currently, there are discussions and collaborations taking place to facilitate that very improvement. I look forward to seeing the results and outcomes of these undertakings sometime soon, but I do not think they will be evident as soon as they are needed simply because of personnel and staffing issues, the normal day-to-day ins and outs of getting a new policy or procedure implemented, and etc.
            T.

          • reveil39 said

            But if the colts had not been through a roundup, they would have been no need to videotape them.

          • I see that point of view, but is the “need” to videotape them so great that it outweighs the pain and stress of that colt?
            T.

          • reveil39 said

            John 8:32

            32Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”

          • I almost hesitate to post this, just because the two sources don’t match in my mind LOL But…

            “Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.” John 8:32

            “The truth shall set you free, but first it’s going to piss you off.” -Gloria Steinem

            In life and in death, I have found both of these to be the most absolute proof of the many flaws of humanity.

            T.

          • sandra longley said

            I absolutely understand what you are getting at, but it is vital to have documentation..everyone can see “proof” and judge for themselves the condition of the horses, I studied those videos with a fine tooth comb..I always would rather rely on my own judgement, as we all know eyewitnesses have different accounts of the same incident. Proof is very important-the pictures don’t lie..I didn’t get the same picture from the daily BLM reports as I did from Elysies videos..watching the mare abort is entirely different than reading 30 mares aborted.

          • I apologize in advance for getting off point but the subject material of this discussion is a point of principal and great importance, not only to me personally but to the situation as a whole.

            I agree 100% with you on “judging for themselves”. I too have *almost* completely different interpretations of what I see with my own eyes and process with my own mind versus what I read in written reports. For this reason, I have questioned myself and others continually about the qualifications of those writing the reports. I’m not making judgments of any of these writers or their qualifications personally. More so I am requesting that there be more factually based evidence and fewer emotionalisms / passion driven personal comments in the texts. I do not subscribe to the idea or utilization of ad hominem. I am a perfectly capable and intelligent person, therefore I can decide for myself if a situation is negative or positive without the use of the author’s descriptive adjectives.
            I also agree that there should be evidentiary process where the issue concerns Wild Horses and Burros. Without this an individual not present during the events could not form any opinion that wasn’t already biased by the writer’s personal views.
            But yes, pictures and videos do lie in a sense. This is accomplished by the wonders of modern technology along with editing software. Again, I am not making accusations or judgments. I am merely stating a fact pertinent to the issue at hand. It is a sad fact, but a fact nonetheless.
            Also in thanks to the wonders of modern technology, pictures and videos can be obtained from a distance that did not intrude upon a horse’s pressure zones in any way. Zoom lenses can bring subject matter so close to the viewer that a distance of 100 feet will seem as though it were only inches. Detail is crisp, refined, and can be seen with the naked eye in its entirety.
            These photographs and videos could have been obtained in this manner. And all the while, the horse would have been oblivious to the fact that he was being recorded, and subsequently would not have been pressured by an otherwise unwelcomed intrusion. They have already been the subjects of physical stress, and most documented are under an even greater amount of physical stress brought on by illness and/or injury. When psychological stress is added into the mixture, a recipe for disaster is the likely outcome for both the physical and psychological states of the horse.
            As humans we have the ability to recognize the increases in stress levels, and we have the ability and capability to respond accordingly – release the pressure causing the stress, whatever it may be. While in captivity, the horse does not have this choice.
            Respectfully,
            T.

          • reveil39 said

            Everything at a distance.
            Viewing the roundups at a distance. Humane observers at a distance.
            Just exactly what is there to hide?
            I believe the human observers are behaving properly.
            The foal did not die because the human observer was there, neither did the other 40 horses.
            Please…

          • The question of hidden or not hidden is not the point. And I have never blamed these deaths on the observers, nor have I suggested that they contributed to these deaths. That would be rediculous.
            T.

        • Tracie ~

          I finally found the link:
          http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments&v=buPvB-JcXQY&fromurl=/watch%3Fv%3DbuPvB-JcXQY%26feature%3Drelated

          It is YouTube and it’s a video about a mare, not a foal. I can’t watch the video on my slow connection and it’s 10 minutes long, but from the comments I understand the “Have a little humanity,” was from a BLM person to the person taking the video.

          It’s hard for me to blame the videographer since the mare was colicky and was one of those who miscarried her foal. The BLM seems to have ignored her suffering for some time before even trying to do anything.

          There are something like 64 comments, and all of this is discussed.

          This is really confusing because there is another video of one of the foals that died taken by Laura Leigh, but most of that is footage of a trailing foal with the chopper almost on his back all the way in. Then later, in the pens, two foals get up and stagger away, but a third does not. The vid then stops and we are informed by text that this foal died because his hooves sloughed. The vid finishes with a still of the foal lying there. No one is close to him. No one else is even in the pens.

          This is the foal Laura called “Hope” because she thought she was going to be able to save him. She wrote an article that she wanted to be seen, so I blogged it here: http://goldendays-suzanne.blogspot.com/2010/02/another-baby-allowed-to-die-alone-and.html This is my blog.

          As I said, confusing. It’s almost as though two different stories were mixed together. Not that I would be surprised by that happening, given how the BLM is about giving out information. See what you make of it.

          • Suzanne,
            Thanks so much for the link.
            I spoke with John about this footage yesterday. I had received information about it from another email as well.
            I am still putting together the information from that conversation in post-format. (Been a little busy today with the YBTJ 9th Edition, Part 1 But I promise that I will get it out as soon as I possibly can! LOL) It answers a lot of those questions and a few more.
            One thing I did want to say right quick – just from me, not from the conversation with John – is in response to “given how the BLM is about giving out information” and to one of Laura Leigh’s on your blog page, “So much for a timely exchange of information. So much for the concept that the “guys on the ground” are any different than the guys in DC, something they want you to believe. So much for the idea that co-operation toward problem solving with the best interests of the horses at its heart will ever be a reality.” Yes, I know that Laura was inquiring about the colt to determine possible plans for his future. I am not speaking of this request when I say these things.
            I don’t want it to seem like I am defending the BLM or anything like that because I have my own issues with them too. I don’t make the call when it comes to what other people think about a subject. What I can say is this: Two things came to mind when I read these. 1) I have always had good communications with the BLM personnel, both “on the ground” and in D.C. They have always been very forthcoming with me, and they have always done the best they could to accommodate my requests and constant pestering of them with questions. 2) Because of my own personal dealings with these personnel, I know that they have several other phone calls and emails everyday that are just as important as mine -some more important -from members of the public. On top of this, they have their own administrative and daily job functions to perform.
            Basically what I am trying to say is that when it comes to correspondence with all of us, they can only do so much, and that they are each “just one person”. I find myself wondering sometimes why it is that everyone expects them to be superhuman or something, or that their own requests are more important than anyone else’s. Even further, I wonder if they realize that there are also 1900 horses that require the attention of the personnel out at Fallon. Frankly, I would gladly take a back seat to the horses and their care. I can wait just a little bit longer if it means that they are getting what they need; my own requests for information are not that important.
            I will get the other information out as soon as I can.
            T.

          • Tracie ~ I wasn’t so much thinking about answering questions instantly, but rather the manner in which the BLM disseminates information in general. I’m not really talking about the general public, but with qualified observers that they know well. They treat even them as if they are on a highly classified site or something. Everything is carefully staged as to what they see and when they see it. They spoon out information to the individual observers – often contradictory information – in such a way as to make it almost impossible to put together the “big picture.” Which, in my opinion, is the reason they do it that way.

            I totally agree that they cannot have the general public wandering around all the time. We DO know how much trouble THAT can cause, and I can understand barring them completely. However, again MY opinion, I think that a qualified humane observer should ALWAYS be present and be allowed to go and observe what ever they feel they need to see – within reason of course. How can you call anyone a “humane observer” if they are only allowed an hour or two a day for a few days per week to go exactly where they are guided and no where else? When they’re not allowed to be close enough to the horses to determine if they are all right on not? Or when they are completely shut out period.

            Elyse asked several times to be allowed to get just close enough to the newly penned horses so she could determine their respiration rates. She was denied. And I remember at the Pryor gather she was treated very rudely. All the observers were, but it seemed that they were especially brusque and non forthcoming with her – the designated humane observer.

            Of course, who cares about MY opinion! ;o)

          • true15 said

            Suzan, I think many people think the way you do, and I agree with you.

          • true15 said

            I meant “Suzanne”. Sorry for misspelling.

          • sandra longley said

            I believe it was the video of the mare that appeared to either have a broken back or a broken pelvis..Elyse was videoing the mare trying to rise, she asked if the vet had seen the mare-the tour gal(blm) said he had that morning and would be back later in the day) A man from the BLM went into the pen to put some hay in frount of the mare where she could reach it…that spooked the other mares who were eating and they almost ran over the downed mare..the tour guide wanted elyse to quit videoing..and later said it was so that the mares would run over to the side of the pen were they were standing(running away from the guy in the pen-he ws trying to be thoughtful and elyse was documenting it all..the colt who had the stress founder never even raised his head during the time he was being videoed..he was in a very bad way..and like you..when i read the report from the care he was given- was astounded he was not on a 2/daily treatment, a foal of that size-even wild is not that difficult to treat-and obviously needed aggresive treatment and to be moved to the hospital area-given fluids..I went back thru the videos of the horses coming in to see if i could spot him in the groups-given his markings

  5. reveil39 said

    These are interesting reports: George Knapp on KLAS
    http://www.lasvegasnow.com/Global/category.asp?C=28259&clipId=4540844&topVideoCatNo=undefined&autoStart=true

    http://www.lasvegasnow.com/Global/category.asp?C=28259&clipId=4540844&topVideoCatNo=undefined&autoStart=true

  6. LOUIE COCROFT said

    IT MUST BE SOMEWHAT LIKE BEING A WAR CORRESPONDENT–HOW DO YOU SHOW THE SUFFERING WITHOUT HAVING TO GO IN? THERE WILL BE NO PUBLIC ACCESS ALLOWED AT THE FACILITY AFTER SATURDAY. ELYSE GARDNER IS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITHOUT ANYONE THERE TO OBSERVE.

    • Louie,
      I understand what you mean about the “war correspondent”. I strive to be as objective as possible, but it is very difficult sometimes. Nonetheless, at these times, I remind myself of why I do what it is that I do: to achieve the best possible outcome for the wild horses and burros. I know of Elyse’s concerns, and I understand some of them. I don’t want to get too deep into this currently because I would like to speak with Elyse first, but I will say this: I think that it’s going to be ok. Really, I do. I can’t explain it right now, but it will be explained a in a post at a later time. I feel like I am being pulled in 30 different directions right now, and I am so sorry that I haven’t been able to get the information posted as of yet. But I will get it out as soon as I can.
      In the meantime, keep the faith. Stay safe. Never give up. And pray.
      T.

  7. sandra longley said

    LOL! Leave it to Gloria to take the beauty out of prose and make it relevant! I am trying to reconcile my being “pissed off” with my need to be objective to find a solution, because just being angry motivates me-but ‘trying to be objective” will help me think about solutions…and thats what i appreciate about your blog..it has got me focused back on solutions-and then how to get the government to implement those ideas..I became so frustrated when I found they actually had decent well thought out specific & detailed protocols…and didn’t follow them???How do you remedy that??? Its not the people on the ground who are doing that, and I have for the most part-defended them- as people just doing a job they have no power to change..It has to fall on certain individuals up the food chain who oversee these roundups-to make sure protocols are followed..for instance..no barbed wire fences around those gathering sites( we saw freedoom the blk. stallion hit that fence shortly after he finally cleared the panels)..that is clearly stated in protocols..Solid wood on the panels in those tight pens where they are pressuring horses to load, to avoid-1 the legs being jammed through the panels-knecks and legs being broken-2-animals seeing an escape route and encouraging them to try to jump out..someone recognized the problem and addressed in in the protocols-yet in all the videos of roundups I could find on line only a few followed that protocol.

  8. true15 said

    “With the ordeal that these horses have been through, on top of being heavily pregnant, all personnel attention should be focused on their care and needs”
    Looks like they were getting lots of care.

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